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2:20 AM
but it's true
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I can make it sound quieter but I can’t sound louder than default
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yeah, it's all just "internal noise volume"
2:22 AM
imagine an explosion
2:22 AM
same volume as regular talking
2:22 AM
you can't make it louder
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Juniper (he/him) 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/17/2023 2:24 AM
Yeah
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Ah. Also, does anyone have the issue of being unable to hear headmates unless specifically focusing on them, like it feels like their speaking "pauses" when you stop focusing?
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this can happen to me when we don't have enough sleep
2:50 AM
but if we have a good night's rest, low stress, etc etc I am pretty much present all day even if I'm not being focused on, and can interrupt other activities with comments and whatnot
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Juniper (he/him) 🔷 Sapphire Safehaven 3(🏝)0 BOT 8/17/2023 2:56 AM
how active the non-fronters are depends on energy levels and stress levels, with high stress it’s usually really hard to hear someone unless we focus only on them
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oh i see lol
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Deleted User 8/18/2023 6:33 PM
How do you manage to care about your tulpa as if they were a human?
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/18/2023 6:34 PM
just stick around tulpamancers until you are gaslit into considering them humans, and then caring about them like humans comes automatically (edited)
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It's not really a question for me.
6:38 PM
It's more of a basic instinct I have. That's all there is to it, for me at least.
6:38 PM
My moral compass simply aligns with me viewing tulpas as individual persons.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk
just stick around tulpamancers until you are gaslit into considering them humans, and then caring about them like humans comes automatically (edited)
A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 6:45 PM
You don't have to be gaslit, it really is a choice if you view a headmate as a separate person or just an extension of yourself. If you want to treat your headmates as individuals, you can refer to them by their name, think about their interests as separate from your own, listen to them when they give advice, etc. That being said, you can also do all of those things and still see them as an aspect of yourself, it really does boil down to a difference in perspective. However, oftentimes people aren't aware of their own needs and treat themselves badly compared to another person
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 6:46 PM
or do the big brain thing and view them as everything at once
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Deleted User 8/18/2023 6:46 PM
I don't do enough for my tulpa :(
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 6:46 PM
does the tulpa feel the same way thonk
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/18/2023 6:47 PM
i used the "gaslit" term playfully
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae
does the tulpa feel the same way thonk
Deleted User 8/18/2023 6:47 PM
He would want me to do more for/with him
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A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 6:48 PM
What does he want to do?
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Deleted User 8/18/2023 6:53 PM
Go on more walks, talk more, go to the wonderland, interact with more people together, that kinda stuff
6:53 PM
He also wants more of an impact on my life
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Sounds good.
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Deleted User 8/18/2023 6:58 PM
It does, but I don't do that kind of stuff because I'm too self-centred
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literally just go do i5
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We can't make you do something. Do it, or don't do it.
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KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk 8/18/2023 8:07 PM
just don't do it
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya 8/18/2023 8:39 PM
For me it was not difficult to treat them as human. I have strong parental instincts and they felt like children at the start, not knowing much and wanting your assistance. So I had a desire to assist them with their growth and development. That formed us a strong bond
8:40 PM
Though I've had this conversatrion with my tulpas before, and they don't see themselves as human, persay. More like, human adjacent. Equal, but different.
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Grovyle //🌳 🦟 BOT 8/18/2023 8:41 PM
It's easy for me to humanize things
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It does, but I don't do that kind of stuff because I'm too self-centred
A long kiss goodnight 8/18/2023 9:51 PM
Squints if you are as self-centered as you claim to be, why bring this up at all? It seems odd you give this thought the time and effort you put into it I'm wondering if this isn't an issue of self-centeredness but rather stress related to doing those activities. Do you have a hard time doing all of the activities you listed? (edited)
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Grovyle //🌳 🦟 BOT 8/18/2023 10:21 PM
Does anyone have any good advice for learning to switch? I'm going to try it tonight
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 10:23 PM
feel so happy and excited you start jumping and moving like it and you can think about nothing else
10:23 PM
and now you're pretty much switched
10:23 PM
works with any other emotion
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 10:27 PM
what i meant is that it can happen very easily once you notice that the emotions turn into actions without thinking about it
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i actually do not know what that feels like, and even if I did what does that even mean
10:27 PM
So... like, if one of my headmates feels something really strong? I apologize i do not follow
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 8/18/2023 10:27 PM
its like everything "you" do comes out like how the tulpa would personally do it
10:28 PM
yes
10:29 PM
so if grovyle would feel excited you would suddenly smile and maybe tense up in a way thats slightly different than when you do it
10:29 PM
and when you realize its that simple, the rest comes easily
10:29 PM
you learn to let go and not think
10:30 PM
you dont need to have strong emotions to switch, but it might be an easy "gateway" to noticing how it happens
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya 8/18/2023 10:37 PM
My tulpa is very protective, and she will offer to switch when I am feeling distressed. Those are the times where I've had the most success at doing it.
10:37 PM
Its not the only time I've been able to do it but its certainly easier with strong emotions
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A long kiss goodnight
Squints if you are as self-centered as you claim to be, why bring this up at all? It seems odd you give this thought the time and effort you put into it I'm wondering if this isn't an issue of self-centeredness but rather stress related to doing those activities. Do you have a hard time doing all of the activities you listed? (edited)
Deleted User 8/19/2023 7:15 AM
I do, actually. Wonderland is the worst to do, but even speaking is a lot. I cant do it while doing something else, but if I don't multitask, I get bored quickly.
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weak aura
7:17 AM
acquire patience, take up meditation, dare yourself to empty your mind for once
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Deleted User 8/19/2023 7:18 AM
Will do, thanks. :)
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no, seriously
7:20 AM
training my patience has done a fair bit for bringing me and kaybee closer and making each others presence more noticeable
7:21 AM
do it for your tulpa, if not for yourself. prove to them you love them enough to drastically change your mindstate for the better and they'll repay you tenfold.
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Deleted User 8/19/2023 7:31 AM
How did you train your patience?
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guided meditation videos on yt
7:33 AM
ymmv so dig around and find one that works with you
7:34 AM
then it's shifted to practicing a little bit when i find the time, and being mindful through the day
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Deleted User 8/19/2023 7:34 AM
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya
For me it was not difficult to treat them as human. I have strong parental instincts and they felt like children at the start, not knowing much and wanting your assistance. So I had a desire to assist them with their growth and development. That formed us a strong bond
ditto on this as well, i saw kaybee (and even her earliest incarnation under a different name) as a person from day 1, just unformed and fresh to everything
7:36 AM
it was hard to treat them as anything but human
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Deleted User 8/19/2023 7:44 AM
I wish it was that easy for me. Due to some neglect he isn't as far evolved as he should be and that makes it harder to really treat him appropriately
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kaybee
do it for your tulpa, if not for yourself. prove to them you love them enough to drastically change your mindstate for the better and they'll repay you tenfold.
A long kiss goodnight 8/19/2023 11:58 AM
Maniac did mention having anxiety. While I appreciate the suggested advice to meditate, I get the sense there's a "do this you lazy person" feel to it. That makes me uncomfortable to hear with the context someone is anxious about doing a task, especially tulpamancy when it shouldn't be stressful
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I do, actually. Wonderland is the worst to do, but even speaking is a lot. I cant do it while doing something else, but if I don't multitask, I get bored quickly.
A long kiss goodnight 8/19/2023 12:00 PM
Can you give me an example of a typical forcing session please? I want to see what's happening and to know why you feel bored.
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A long kiss goodnight
Can you give me an example of a typical forcing session please? I want to see what's happening and to know why you feel bored.
I close my eyes and try to imagine the wonderland or talk to Velvet. Then random thoughts come into my mind, I push them away. While in the wonderland, I skip in time or get distracted which frustrates me. Then intrusive thoughts come up and objects start doing whatever I DONT want them to do. Then I stop the session.
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A long kiss goodnight
Can you give me an example of a typical forcing session please? I want to see what's happening and to know why you feel bored.
Alternatively, I try to talk to Velvet while something plays in the background but I cant focus enough, so I pause it. Then I have a just as hard time talking to him as before and additionally other thoughts arise. I need to not entertain them as to not get distracted, but I WANT to distract myself because focusing on one thing at a time gets boring. I finally do get distracted and the session stops and I continue watching/listening to the video in the background that I paused before.
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A long kiss goodnight 8/19/2023 1:42 PM
I have heard of intrusive thoughts where everything glitches out. (Crap, muffins are done, one moment please)
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Deleted User 8/19/2023 1:45 PM
I want muffins, too! :( But yeah, take all the time you need. Muffins take priority, I fully understand :)
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A long kiss goodnight 8/19/2023 3:41 PM
I got roped into cooking, sorry about that. For visualizing things you don't want- if you're visualizing too many objects at once, it can be easy for things to get off the rails. It may help to visualize things one at a time at first and then work your way up to more objects. If the intrusive thoughts are scary, that's a different situation. I feel I need more context before giving advice on that. As for getting distracted, would it help to let your mind wander and check in with Velvet to see what he thinks about your thoughts? @Deleted User
3:43 PM
=== Oh, oops, I saw you have a thread now
3:43 PM
I'll move there
3:44 PM
Link for people who wish to join us ^^ #deleted-channel (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 8/19/2023 5:05 PM
One thing that helps me with visualizing is obsessively doing something irl
5:05 PM
Like, playing volleyball for 40 minutes
5:06 PM
Or, playing a fast paced fps for awhile
5:06 PM
And, it just kinda burns into your mind
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Deleted User 8/19/2023 5:32 PM
Thanks for the advice! :)
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya 8/20/2023 11:46 PM
I have a question. I've never had more than one tulpa before recently, is it typical for one tulpa to be more active/pull more focus than the others at any given time? (edited)
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thats usually what happens with us
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 8/20/2023 11:48 PM
for us, which of us pulls more focus varies from one extreme to another, and everthing in between
11:48 PM
with no discernible schedule! (edited)
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What the heck’s a tulpa? (In a nice way)
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#what-is-a-tulpa
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What the heck’s a tulpa? (In a nice way)
it's an elaborate in joke, but shhh, don't tell anyone
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya 8/21/2023 12:23 AM
How did you get here without knowing what a tulpa was?
12:24 AM
that came out meaner than I meant it, legitimate question
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya
How did you get here without knowing what a tulpa was?
I mean, I don't blame them. I ended up here one night when I was sleep deprived and still awake at 5 AM after I had been kind of going down a rabbit hole of odd concepts, like Hypnosis for example, eventually I just kind of spiraled down and ended up at the main subreddit for tulpas somehow, thinking "This sounds insane." and just decided I'd join a discord to get more insight. (edited)
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Ulithium_Dragon | Maledy | Freya 8/21/2023 1:06 AM
Ahh
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some background first, i’ve only recently been hearing about tulpamancy from various places and have only surface knowledge on it and the creation of tulpas. for.. years? i’ve had conversations in my head, talk exclusively with we/our pronouns when referring to myself in my head, and a few other tidbits that i feel may be something like a tulpa? one in particular is i have full conversations (most commonly arguments or debates) and each voice (mine and this ‘other’) has differing opinions. is that?? a tulpa?? that i just never realized was one for x years?? or just my consciousness having a discussion with itself? like i know tulpas can form accidentally and can go dormant and such but i’m really just curious
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It could be a tulpa! If it's not causing trouble for you, feel free to label it as such
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it’s definitely not causing any trouble, i will say our arguing does get a little out of hand at times but at the same time i do wonder if it counts as a tulpa? like there’s no shape, no name, and i feel like i’m making up responses to myself sometimes
1:31 AM
i’m sure i can develop it into a more fledged out(?) entity but i’m very hesitant and unsure
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It can count as a tulpa as long as it's an identity created by you, even if accidentally
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super cool, thank you :)
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StarlieCharlie [@ ON] 8/21/2023 3:39 AM
Is it alright if I ask what co-fronting feels like? Like how is the body split?
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