Ah. Also, does anyone have the issue of being unable to hear headmates unless specifically focusing on them, like it feels like their speaking "pauses" when you stop focusing?
this can happen to me when we don't have enough sleep
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but if we have a good night's rest, low stress, etc etc I am pretty much present all day even if I'm not being focused on, and can interrupt other activities with comments and whatnot
how active the non-fronters are
depends on energy levels and stress levels, with high stress it’s usually really hard to hear someone unless we focus only on them
You don't have to be gaslit, it really is a choice if you view a headmate as a separate person or just an extension of yourself. If you want to treat your headmates as individuals, you can refer to them by their name, think about their interests as separate from your own, listen to them when they give advice, etc. That being said, you can also do all of those things and still see them as an aspect of yourself, it really does boil down to a difference in perspective. However, oftentimes people aren't aware of their own needs and treat themselves badly compared to another person
For me it was not difficult to treat them as human. I have strong parental instincts and they felt like children at the start, not knowing much and wanting your assistance. So I had a desire to assist them with their growth and development. That formed us a strong bond
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Though I've had this conversatrion with my tulpas before, and they don't see themselves as human, persay. More like, human adjacent. Equal, but different.
Squints if you are as self-centered as you claim to be, why bring this up at all? It seems odd you give this thought the time and effort you put into it
I'm wondering if this isn't an issue of self-centeredness but rather stress related to doing those activities. Do you have a hard time doing all of the activities you listed?(edited)
My tulpa is very protective, and she will offer to switch when I am feeling distressed. Those are the times where I've had the most success at doing it.
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Its not the only time I've been able to do it but its certainly easier with strong emotions
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Squints if you are as self-centered as you claim to be, why bring this up at all? It seems odd you give this thought the time and effort you put into it
I'm wondering if this isn't an issue of self-centeredness but rather stress related to doing those activities. Do you have a hard time doing all of the activities you listed? (edited)
I do, actually. Wonderland is the worst to do, but even speaking is a lot. I cant do it while doing something else, but if I don't multitask, I get bored quickly.
training my patience has done a fair bit for bringing me and kaybee closer and making each others presence more noticeable
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do it for your tulpa, if not for yourself. prove to them you love them enough to drastically change your mindstate for the better and they'll repay you tenfold.
For me it was not difficult to treat them as human. I have strong parental instincts and they felt like children at the start, not knowing much and wanting your assistance. So I had a desire to assist them with their growth and development. That formed us a strong bond
ditto on this as well, i saw kaybee (and even her earliest incarnation under a different name) as a person from day 1, just unformed and fresh to everything
I wish it was that easy for me. Due to some neglect he isn't as far evolved as he should be and that makes it harder to really treat him appropriately
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do it for your tulpa, if not for yourself. prove to them you love them enough to drastically change your mindstate for the better and they'll repay you tenfold.
Maniac did mention having anxiety. While I appreciate the suggested advice to meditate, I get the sense there's a "do this you lazy person" feel to it. That makes me uncomfortable to hear with the context someone is anxious about doing a task, especially tulpamancy when it shouldn't be stressful
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I do, actually. Wonderland is the worst to do, but even speaking is a lot. I cant do it while doing something else, but if I don't multitask, I get bored quickly.
I close my eyes and try to imagine the wonderland or talk to Velvet. Then random thoughts come into my mind, I push them away. While in the wonderland, I skip in time or get distracted which frustrates me. Then intrusive thoughts come up and objects start doing whatever I DONT want them to do. Then I stop the session.
A long kiss goodnight
Can you give me an example of a typical forcing session please? I want to see what's happening and to know why you feel bored.
Alternatively, I try to talk to Velvet while something plays in the background but I cant focus enough, so I pause it. Then I have a just as hard time talking to him as before and additionally other thoughts arise. I need to not entertain them as to not get distracted, but I WANT to distract myself because focusing on one thing at a time gets boring. I finally do get distracted and the session stops and I continue watching/listening to the video in the background that I paused before.
I got roped into cooking, sorry about that.
For visualizing things you don't want- if you're visualizing too many objects at once, it can be easy for things to get off the rails. It may help to visualize things one at a time at first and then work your way up to more objects.
If the intrusive thoughts are scary, that's a different situation. I feel I need more context before giving advice on that.
As for getting distracted, would it help to let your mind wander and check in with Velvet to see what he thinks about your thoughts?
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Oh, oops, I saw you have a thread now
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I'll move there
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Link for people who wish to join us ^^
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I have a question. I've never had more than one tulpa before recently, is it typical for one tulpa to be more active/pull more focus than the others at any given time?(edited)
I mean, I don't blame them.
I ended up here one night when I was sleep deprived and still awake at 5 AM after I had been kind of going down a rabbit hole of odd concepts, like Hypnosis for example, eventually I just kind of spiraled down and ended up at the main subreddit for tulpas somehow, thinking "This sounds insane." and just decided I'd join a discord to get more insight.(edited)
some background first, i’ve only recently been hearing about tulpamancy from various places and have only surface knowledge on it and the creation of tulpas. for.. years? i’ve had conversations in my head, talk exclusively with we/our pronouns when referring to myself in my head, and a few other tidbits that i feel may be something like a tulpa? one in particular is i have full conversations (most commonly arguments or debates) and each voice (mine and this ‘other’) has differing opinions. is that?? a tulpa?? that i just never realized was one for x years?? or just my consciousness having a discussion with itself?
like i know tulpas can form accidentally and can go dormant and such but i’m really just curious
it’s definitely not causing any trouble, i will say our arguing does get a little out of hand at times but at the same time i do wonder if it counts as a tulpa? like there’s no shape, no name, and i feel like i’m making up responses to myself sometimes
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i’m sure i can develop it into a more fledged out(?) entity but i’m very hesitant and unsure